...I will tell you when I investigate and find it.
The page is short and has shitty quotes. Or else I just like the scenes in Oz that no one else does, or something. I can't quote better scenes off the top of my head but most of those scenes were pretty nothing-to-write-home-about and the fact that the dialogue was out of context made it even less interesting. House, of course, has almost every piece of dialogue spoken on the show quoted. I use "romantic" in ways it wasn't intended, I think. But yes. Beecher's frequently overdramatic, but his actor can handle it. Keller's more of a sexual predator. Both characters where straight dialogue doesn't convey what it does in context at all.
The guy from No Doubt's called Tony Kanal and he's the boyfriend-in-the-band that "Don't Speak" was written about, he plays bass guitar & keyboard, he bleaches his hair blonde, and here's a picture he's actually in (http://www.nodoubtweb.com/disco/hellagood/hellagood3.jpg). His wikipedia photo I wouldn't have made him for Indian, but there I can buy it.
I don't think being pretty at all takes away from your cred in goth-type genres. I mean, Emilie Autumn, Amanda Palmer, the chick from Jack Off Jill. All very pretty. They may use screamy vocals at times, but Emilie Autumn especially is exactly the poster girl I'd reference, all prettiness. It may be "dark" and "edgy" and it may have actual musical talent behind it, but if you can't tell her apart from an "alternative" model then it's still a kind of pretty. I would be amazed if you could pull out a chick singer from a band you consider "goth" who wasn't "pretty."
But there've been straight-white-males who wore makeup and dresses since what, the seventies? It's not a new idea and it's not an earthshattering concept, and it's not bringing any new perspective. Forty years later, if we're still talking about the same straight white middle class male? He may be glib or angsty or angry or trying to act hard or in love with his flat-iron, but he's still dominating the genre, and there's still no equivalent representation for any other group. Gasp shock horror, a guy wears a dress, that's only been done how many times since the history of the earth -- still not the same as giving other people a voice.
It happens, depending on the band whether it's hecklers or their fans just like being spit on.
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The page is short and has shitty quotes. Or else I just like the scenes in Oz that no one else does, or something. I can't quote better scenes off the top of my head but most of those scenes were pretty nothing-to-write-home-about and the fact that the dialogue was out of context made it even less interesting. House, of course, has almost every piece of dialogue spoken on the show quoted. I use "romantic" in ways it wasn't intended, I think. But yes. Beecher's frequently overdramatic, but his actor can handle it. Keller's more of a sexual predator. Both characters where straight dialogue doesn't convey what it does in context at all.
The guy from No Doubt's called Tony Kanal and he's the boyfriend-in-the-band that "Don't Speak" was written about, he plays bass guitar & keyboard, he bleaches his hair blonde, and here's a picture he's actually in (http://www.nodoubtweb.com/disco/hellagood/hellagood3.jpg). His wikipedia photo I wouldn't have made him for Indian, but there I can buy it.
I don't think being pretty at all takes away from your cred in goth-type genres. I mean, Emilie Autumn, Amanda Palmer, the chick from Jack Off Jill. All very pretty. They may use screamy vocals at times, but Emilie Autumn especially is exactly the poster girl I'd reference, all prettiness. It may be "dark" and "edgy" and it may have actual musical talent behind it, but if you can't tell her apart from an "alternative" model then it's still a kind of pretty. I would be amazed if you could pull out a chick singer from a band you consider "goth" who wasn't "pretty."
But there've been straight-white-males who wore makeup and dresses since what, the seventies? It's not a new idea and it's not an earthshattering concept, and it's not bringing any new perspective. Forty years later, if we're still talking about the same straight white middle class male? He may be glib or angsty or angry or trying to act hard or in love with his flat-iron, but he's still dominating the genre, and there's still no equivalent representation for any other group. Gasp shock horror, a guy wears a dress, that's only been done how many times since the history of the earth -- still not the same as giving other people a voice.
It happens, depending on the band whether it's hecklers or their fans just like being spit on.