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First of all, click this to get a scary look at exactly how much photos are tampered with before they're put on the covers of magazines. It's an animated gif, I don't recognize the woman in the photo but gods, they've changed her a ton.
Secondly, being at home without Internet has resulted in me watching more TV along with my sewing projects, and I've yet again managed to get myself hooked on stuff that hardly anyone else watches!
1. Help! I'm A Teenage Outlaw!
This airs at 11:30PM on Nick and features a twelve-year-old who found out that his mother was a highwaywoman before she dies, and now needs to carry on the family tradition. It's set in 1643, and his sidekicks are Lady Devereux (a name I've always loved) disguised as a fellow peasant called Deedee and Moses, a ten-year-old inventing genius. Deedee is actually the smartest of the lot, and although there's only one season of this show, it's funny and easy enough to follow. Kinda like Big Wolf on Campus, except cuter.
2. Boston Legal
I've only seen one ep of this show but in that one ep, there were two heterosexual men that have sleepovers, a kickass African female lawyer, an old kickass woman lawyer that's the boss of an incompetent African laywer and white lawyer, and a female judge. Talk about diversity and a good way to yank in Fans of Color (FoC).
3. Monk
Okay, this I got into last night, because of Numa. She sat down and watched two and a half eps with me, and the best way to get me into a show, any show at all, is to watch it with me. If you can explain it to me and be there to chat to, then I'm more likely to pay atttention to the show. In this case, it was funny enough that I think it's worth watching some more of. I know that someone else on my flist also mentioned it to me once, but I can't think whom, unfortunately.
The mention of Fans of Color made me think about the music I liked -- I've attended three concerts in Boston so far (Flogging Molly, Placebo and Placebo again) and both times, I was the only South Asian there. Not just the only South Asian girl, but the only South Asian, full stop. Sum 41 has a South Asian guy on drums, I think, and Damage has a Sri Lankan lead singer but apart from that, the music scene that I'm aware of seems to be split mostly between white and black, with J-Pop and J-Rock also starting to creep in. I mean, punk is angry lower middle class or upper-middle-class-pretending-to-be-lower, punk rock and pop punk are mostly the same. Hip-hop, rap and R'n'B tend to be black-dominated, and I have no idea about hardcore but from what I've seen from what Savior's shown me, that's white-dominated.
Good thing I ID myself more by my gender than by my race, huh?
Oh, and I found out what AS/S stands for. *dies*
Secondly, being at home without Internet has resulted in me watching more TV along with my sewing projects, and I've yet again managed to get myself hooked on stuff that hardly anyone else watches!
1. Help! I'm A Teenage Outlaw!
This airs at 11:30PM on Nick and features a twelve-year-old who found out that his mother was a highwaywoman before she dies, and now needs to carry on the family tradition. It's set in 1643, and his sidekicks are Lady Devereux (a name I've always loved) disguised as a fellow peasant called Deedee and Moses, a ten-year-old inventing genius. Deedee is actually the smartest of the lot, and although there's only one season of this show, it's funny and easy enough to follow. Kinda like Big Wolf on Campus, except cuter.
2. Boston Legal
I've only seen one ep of this show but in that one ep, there were two heterosexual men that have sleepovers, a kickass African female lawyer, an old kickass woman lawyer that's the boss of an incompetent African laywer and white lawyer, and a female judge. Talk about diversity and a good way to yank in Fans of Color (FoC).
3. Monk
Okay, this I got into last night, because of Numa. She sat down and watched two and a half eps with me, and the best way to get me into a show, any show at all, is to watch it with me. If you can explain it to me and be there to chat to, then I'm more likely to pay atttention to the show. In this case, it was funny enough that I think it's worth watching some more of. I know that someone else on my flist also mentioned it to me once, but I can't think whom, unfortunately.
The mention of Fans of Color made me think about the music I liked -- I've attended three concerts in Boston so far (Flogging Molly, Placebo and Placebo again) and both times, I was the only South Asian there. Not just the only South Asian girl, but the only South Asian, full stop. Sum 41 has a South Asian guy on drums, I think, and Damage has a Sri Lankan lead singer but apart from that, the music scene that I'm aware of seems to be split mostly between white and black, with J-Pop and J-Rock also starting to creep in. I mean, punk is angry lower middle class or upper-middle-class-pretending-to-be-lower, punk rock and pop punk are mostly the same. Hip-hop, rap and R'n'B tend to be black-dominated, and I have no idea about hardcore but from what I've seen from what Savior's shown me, that's white-dominated.
Good thing I ID myself more by my gender than by my race, huh?
Oh, and I found out what AS/S stands for. *dies*
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Ha. I can't take anything seriously from James Spader.
I think the only thing about Oz that genuinely makes me cringe is some of the on-camera sex. Recurring theme of brutality = it doesn't get filmed unless it's violent and/or disturbing in some way. Oh, and the narrator. Having a narrator was cute for about ten seconds, then he kept babbling incoherently for twenty minutes every episode about whatever topic was plot-relevant and edgy. But he is Mercutio from the pop art Romeo & Juliet.
James Iha! James Iha, I forgot James Iha. Of Smashing Pumpkins/A Perfect Circle fame. I think I mentally combined him with Herman Li. And I don't think I've ever sat through a song by Kittie, but they have a South Korean chick on bass. So clearly Fickle should join a band, become famous, take over the world, etc.
I don't care how they look in theory. It's the perception that's a bitch. And all the female-fronted-but-all-the-rest-are-guys bands kind of reinforce it that chicks can hop around on stage in skimpy clothes but they're not "real" musicians who actually play instruments, unless they're part of a girl group. Which is weird. And the majority of female fans seem to be based around "she's so pretty!" and "her voice is so pretty!" which again, reinforcement that guys can look like shit and be in a band (it's practically a requirement) but chicks who front bands have to look like models and have to do things that are pop/conventional-for-chicks/cute so they're not seen as who even knows what they're trying to avoid. I don't like that more chicks can't get up there and so something "ugly" the way no one blinks if your typical white straight male rawkstah does. There are chicks who do, and people who accept it, but it's not..."okay" in a way. It's lame. Like my typing atm.
"Lip Gloss & Black". I still love that song. Atreyu can suck and suck and suck but I will still love that song. It's hilarious.
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Awwww. I heart it. Especially the bit where he brings in a celebrity to talk about gay Santa Clauses but the guy starts in with black Santas and has to be corrected to work on the gay selling case.
...On-Camera sex? Wow. I'm reading through their Wikiquote page right now.
Keller: I couldn't face living the rest of my life in here without you. Don't you see? I did what I did out of love.
Beecher: I loved alcohol. I loved heroin. But I had to put them behind me because they were poison. Death. You... are death. Let me live.
Should I be cracking up at that? I'm hoping it's better when acted out.
Oh? South Asian? His name sounds East Asian. And Fickle is musically lacking in talent and passion and joining a band just to make a statement seems kinda shallow. Music's one of those things where if you don't have the passion for it, it'll sound hollow. Or so I've always thought.
I don't like it when the camera focuses on cleavage under the pretext of zooming in on the throat, or when it sets up shots that deliberately look sexualised but only do it for the girls. It bugs me that the focus is on their body parts instead of the song, or that the song isn't telling a story of some sort. And huh, interesting. I like Emilie Autumn's Marry Me song and I got Sian hooked on it, but that's because it's a fucking waltz with twisted like crazy lyrics and twisted lyrics are love. But wild hair and makeup is also love -- I like something colorful and crazy and daring better than conventional pretty, just because conventional pretty is everywhere.
And you mean like spitting onto the floor of a mosh pit? I didn't mind the prospect of falling until then, because at that point, I was all icked out by the idea of falling onto someone else's saliva. Ick. *picky about things like body fluids* And your typing is fine.
Ahhh. Yeah, that song. Hah for me knowing two whole Atreyu song titles!
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The wikiquotes page for Oz sucks imo. And I have enough faith in Beecher & Keller's actors to assume that scene comes across well (it's definitely not supposed to be gushy and romantic given the one's idea of love is breaking every bone in someone's body and seeing if they'll crawl back to you, but Beecher can get very melodramatic/maudlin/introspective/spewing poetry/etc. He also spends half a season high as a kite shouting little rhymes at people à la Ophelia, so! Grain of salt, grain of salt!) but the dialogue does look like shit on paper. Iirc, that's right before Keller suicides, way at the end of the series.
James Iha? He's Japanese-American. But! Soundgarden has an Indian guitarist, and so does Flyleaf and No Doubt and Billy Talent and Bush (but it's not the current band Bush who's British but a different one who's Canadian and worked with Lou Reed and Alice Cooper). So wikipedia tells me. I don't think I've actually listened to...any. Of those bands.
No, not like spitting, but like doing anything a pop punk princess wouldn't. If a chick's up there, she has to be pretty, she has to be dressed "pretty", her hair has to be "pretty", her makeup has to be "pretty", her voice has to be "pretty" etc. etc. etc. it's too much about pretty. Sure I like looking at it but if she wants to punch her face full of holes, cut all her hair off, wear guy's jeans and a t-shirt, and sing with a little more range than "I can hit an octave's worth of pretty notes and do your basic pop rock melody", then fuck everyone, she should do that. And I don't think in this atmosphere a band like that could survive without heavy pushing as a freakshow/shocking and controversial for the very fact she's not "pretty", and that's as fair as if Killswitch Engage were a success purely because oh my god Howard Jones is black, etc. etc. Chicks in bands have to be fashionable and look like models and be cute, guys in bands can look like shit and no one cares, why is this still an acceptable divide? Adding bands where the guys have to be cute and feminine gets labeled as adding diversity in some way but I don't see how, given we're still talking about straight white males.
Though if your band has few enough people coming to see it that if you spit at the front rows you're going to hit concrete, I feel sorrier for the band than the people who step in spit.
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Yeah, the page is SHORT. House, on the other hand, is way long. And Boston Legal's page was long enough to make me realize how much I'd hate the main characters' views on women. As for that speech, I wouldn't call it romantic but very overblown. I'd be interested in seeing how any actors could make it work. (Hah! Ophelia complex in a guy would just about serve the universe right).
Ahhhh. Hey, wait, I've heard No Doubt! I think. And Kathy likes Bush, though I think it's the modern Bush. I haven't seen anyone South Asian looking in No Doubt, though, but that's because Gwen hogs the camera.
Well, what about Goth and that sort of genre, where you're meant to be angry instead of pretty and being pretty takes away from your cred? And I like the name Killswitch Engage, but I've only heard one of their songs and I can't remember that one, alas. But no, that wouldn't be a fair way of marketing and, well, at least emo bands demand a degree of prettiness. I think that does count as diversity because even if it's still guys, it's showing that there are more ways of being a guy than just being angry-shouty or tough-jockish -- it's okay to be feminine or to be pretty. Like the bit from Cement Garden that was in the Madonna song that I loved.
*dies* I was talking about the guys in the mosh spit. I don't think that anyone from the band actually spit AT the audience, else there's no way that I would have been willing to be in the front rows for any concerts after that.
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The page is short and has shitty quotes. Or else I just like the scenes in Oz that no one else does, or something. I can't quote better scenes off the top of my head but most of those scenes were pretty nothing-to-write-home-about and the fact that the dialogue was out of context made it even less interesting. House, of course, has almost every piece of dialogue spoken on the show quoted. I use "romantic" in ways it wasn't intended, I think. But yes. Beecher's frequently overdramatic, but his actor can handle it. Keller's more of a sexual predator. Both characters where straight dialogue doesn't convey what it does in context at all.
The guy from No Doubt's called Tony Kanal and he's the boyfriend-in-the-band that "Don't Speak" was written about, he plays bass guitar & keyboard, he bleaches his hair blonde, and here's a picture he's actually in (http://www.nodoubtweb.com/disco/hellagood/hellagood3.jpg). His wikipedia photo I wouldn't have made him for Indian, but there I can buy it.
I don't think being pretty at all takes away from your cred in goth-type genres. I mean, Emilie Autumn, Amanda Palmer, the chick from Jack Off Jill. All very pretty. They may use screamy vocals at times, but Emilie Autumn especially is exactly the poster girl I'd reference, all prettiness. It may be "dark" and "edgy" and it may have actual musical talent behind it, but if you can't tell her apart from an "alternative" model then it's still a kind of pretty. I would be amazed if you could pull out a chick singer from a band you consider "goth" who wasn't "pretty."
But there've been straight-white-males who wore makeup and dresses since what, the seventies? It's not a new idea and it's not an earthshattering concept, and it's not bringing any new perspective. Forty years later, if we're still talking about the same straight white middle class male? He may be glib or angsty or angry or trying to act hard or in love with his flat-iron, but he's still dominating the genre, and there's still no equivalent representation for any other group. Gasp shock horror, a guy wears a dress, that's only been done how many times since the history of the earth -- still not the same as giving other people a voice.
It happens, depending on the band whether it's hecklers or their fans just like being spit on.
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Why don't you add some quotations, then? It sounds like a good thing to do next time you get bored. Personally, I'm pouting at the lack of a page for Help! I'm A Teenage Outlaw, especially when it has snicker-worthy passages between Giles and his father like:
Giles: Hey, big boy!
Sir John: ...Are you flirting with me?
Giles: That depends, darling. *winks*
Sir John: Well, don't. It's creepy.
Setting is that Giles just came back from a flirting lesson. And he's a blond pretty teen.
And huh, I meant more like heavy goth/metal/rock types. Emilie Autumn is pretty, yeah, Jack Off Jill isn't necessarily pretty to my eye but they are striking and no clue who Amanda Palmer is.
And hm, lead singer of The Gossip (http://www.flickr.com/photos/justinevans/293298765/)? She's a chick, and not conventionally pretty. Not sure if The Gossip counts as goth, though, they're more along alternative.
And it's not new but it's still not common. And girls can wear male clothing anywhere they like, including in public, without being ridiculed -- unless you live in Iran or something, admittedly -- so there's something there, at least, even if the chicks on stage, even if the supposed revolution models are still pretty. Guys in dresses are still odd to me, though I'm accepting of their right to wear whatever they want. It's just something I haven't become blase about yet, because it is unusual from where I'm standing. Which is in the UN, at the moment. XD
...Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
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I don't find Autumn or JOJ attractive, but they are pretty, or definitely trying (http://www.sarahsplanet.cwc.net/img27.jpg) if not. Amanda Palmer is on the left (http://sherihausey.com/dresdendolls/orpheum_06/dd_orpheum_2006_dual.jpg), she's the chick from the Dresden Dolls (if the mime paint didn't make it obvious).
I think I've vaguely heard of them but I could be making it up. I kind of like her for looking so not like Avril Lavigne. I don't know about your definition of common, though.
Ewwwwwwwwwww what?
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I think JoJ is pretty and oh, okay, Dresden Dolls I know. I wouldn't call her pretty, but yeah, trying for it and definitely striking, again.
I only found out about them yesterday, from Numa, but the lead singer's a lesbian who's friends with Kate Moss. And common means that I've never seen it IRL. Only in Velvet Goldmine, Tootsie, Mrs. Doubtfire, Billy Elliot and that's it, I think.
Ewwwww at the idea of being spit on!
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They're too stereotypically goth. And what a shot for your resume. "I'm a lesbian who's friends with Kate Moss." I'm talking in reference to the music scene; effeminate guys in a band? Whoa, stunner! It's so typical and socially acceptable (within the scene itself if not elsewhere) that I can't see it as progressive almost half a century after the fact.
Never go see GWAR. For many reasons, but not wanting to be soaked in bodily fluids, artificial and otherwise, is a big one.
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Awwww. They're the first alternative band I ever listened to, I think. And the Kate Moss thing is important because the lead singer is actually a bit stupid -- she spoke out very strongly against supermodels but then was friends with Kate Moss and all, "She's not bisexual, she married a guy and had kids, a bisexual wouldn't do that" and "yeah, supermodels are bad but she's not like them, Kate's special". Ouch. And oh, okay. My early music exposure was Elvis, golden oldies and then boy bands and none of them wore dresses, weirdly enough. Alt music is fairly recent for me, maybe only five years-ish or so since music isn't my fandom and crossdressers are still rare in my corner of it.
I have no idea what GWAR is, but I'll avoid it. Definitely.
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...She is kind of stupid. And your exposure timeline is hilarious.
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She is definitely stupid, which is sad. And hey, I LOVED Elvis. I still have his entire discography. And multiple CDs! Lilo made me empathize with her SO MUCH because of her love for Elvis!
*runs out the door to eye doctor now*
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I wish I were over there so I could test each one to see what finally did them in. Beautiful. It let so much through before that, too.
...Yes. True. That would make things difficult. What doesn't the UN block, in terms of im?
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And I have no idea, but I think it's the page as a whole, actually, since it listed words that you'd used in comments before but hadn't used in that particular comment. Maybe if I tried to click and reply to ONLY that comment instead of the comment thread, it'd be okay. *not willing to risk it in case attention is drawn to her Net-surfing habits, though*
And uh, the problem is that I can't d/l stuff and most of the sites seem to be blocked. I know that Google is clear, and Yahoo is clear, but I have no idea if Yahoo Messenger would work since I've only ever used it once and that was years ago. *pokes* Make a Google Account very, very quickly?
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Hm. Give me a name for it?
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saviorwatchinghouse. stopthatchase. whocaresaboutmedicine. snarkmorediagnoseless. eyeballneedlesahoy. cuddyisbitchyawesome. foremanlikesblackmarkers. wilsoniscloseted. triagemenow.
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Stopthatchase conjures up images of cop cars in silent films, you know racing around the same building twenty times in the process of a Major Chase Scene.
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*dies* That's fantastic. It made me snicker. *votes for that one now!*
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And registered it is. Explain to me what I need to do now.
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Okay! E-mail me at ficklegoddess as a gmail addy, and I'll set up a chat with you. Easiest that way. XD
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